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Session 6

My name is Basie Martins. I trust that you are all well and I want to thank you again for listening to this program. For those of you who do not know, the topic of this series is, “How to Live Successfully and Victoriously in Christ”. It is all about us, the body of Christ, and us the church and us as individuals in the kingdom of God, being successful in all areas of life. It is about us claiming our full inheritance. It is about us putting in place on earth, which is already in heaven.

In the previous session, we discussed the Biblical principles that authorize us to heal ourselves and heal other people. We have seen that nothing can block healing in any way except for two things in the life of the person who lays his or her hands on people, or even when he or she is praying for him or herself. He or she needs faith, without which we cannot please God. We call it a miracle-working faith. And he or she needs to live an obedient life. They need to pursue holiness even if they are not always successful in this. They need to live pleasing before the Lord, even if their souls slip up sometimes. Apart from this, nothing can prevent healing at all.

We have also seen that a person’s attitude is very important. We need to know that we know that a person will receive his healing when we pray and we need to be adamant and intolerant to delays. We do not accept defeat in this regard. We need to act exactly as Jesus did in this regard.

In this session, we are going to discuss the most life-changing message that any child of God can ever hear. It will give you the necessary perspective to see, understand and interpret the word of God as God intended. It will enable you to be enlightened at a level that’s been eluding the church for many years.

To help you to understand this message, I am going to sketch a specific scenario: Imagine your mother and father got stranded on a remote island and nobody ever found them. After a year or so, you were born and they raised you. They were not Christians, in fact, they never heard the gospel and they never knew that God exists. Eventually, they died and you were left behind.

After the burial, you just carried on with your life on that remote island. Completely on your own. One day you found a very strange object that you never saw in your life, a bottle, with a book inside, the New Testament. It washed up on the shore. If your mother did not teach you to read you wouldn’t have been able to read this book.

After you have read this book a few times you could not stop blessing her for that. A few years later, a similar bottle with another book washed up on the shore and this time it contained the Old Testament.

After you have read the Old Testament a few times and a few years later, one can make the following observation: Because you were there completely on your own and because there was no interaction between you and the rest of the world, especially the church, you possessed the purest and most Biblical and authentic and divine doctrines imaginable. This happened because you had only the Holy Spirit and the word of God to teach you and nobody to confuse you. This happened because the church and other Christians could not contaminate you and your spiritual preparation and your spiritual development (Yes I know, this is quite the opposite of what God intended).

The church is the believer’s most dangerous enemy in this regard. The church is invested with all sorts of false doctrines and the church causes more damage than satan and his demons combined.

Let’s discuss this briefly: First of all, because you had only the New Testament to start with, you could not be tricked by satan into applying those things in the Old Testament that were only applicable to the nation of Israel, onto yourselves or in your own life. Later on, after the foundation of the word of God, referring to the New Testament was firmly built into your heart, you received the Old Testament, and because of that, you were able to apply the relevant things in the Old Testament, that is still applicable to you, in your life and you were able to understand and to identify the thing that applied to Israel and not to you.

You soon learned that the Old Testament is a goldmine of truths and a very good example to the church and just as important to Christians today as it was to the nation of Israel back then. But, you soon learned and understood that many things in the Old testament are not Christian and not applicable to you.

Because of you being so isolated, the church could not cause you to contaminate your faith and your relationship with Christ with legalism. They could not cause you to adopt Jewish traditions like keeping the Sabbath and the Jewish feasts and by keeping the law and so on. You knew that the love of God and the ways of God and the principles of God and the will of God and a lot of other things in the Old Testament are still valid and still applicable to you but you knew that Christianity indeed replaced Judaism as Paul declared in the book of Hebrews. You read the passages and warnings that Paul wrote about the false apostles that will come and attempt to bring Old Testament laws into the church like keeping the Sabbath and certain holidays or feasts and circumcision and abstaining from eating certain foods and so on.

So at this stage in this scenario, you were under the impression that the church, who you so much long to meet, are doing well. You never even suspected that it is seriously infested with all these Old Testament legalistic laws and rituals and methods because they did not listen to Paul, as you did when you read the New Testament.

In the New Testament, you never read anything about generational curses or people breaking curses or Jesus and the apostles warning you against generational curses. You never saw anybody in the New Testament breaking generational curses. Nobody even discussed it just even once in the New Testament. You did not even know about the phrase, “Breaking of generational curses” because it is nowhere to be found in the New Testament and you never talked to anybody ever except your parents. So you did not carry out any of these acts because you never heard about it or read about it in the Bible. You did not even know a thing about generational curses at all. You saw the word “curse” in the New Testament but it was not discussed. You just knew that Jesus became a curse for us and that we only received the blessings of Abraham, a guy you know very little of except that He had great faith and that he was a very blessed man.

When the Old testament washed up on the shore of the island though, you did read all about generational curses. You can remember how glad you were when you finally read one day about the promise of God that He will soon repeal the law of generational curses. You read this promise in Jeremiah 31:29-30 In those days people will no longer say, The parents have eaten sour grapes, and the children’s teeth are set on edge. Instead, everyone will die for their own sin; whoever eats sour grapes – their own teeth will be set on edge. This is what God promised in the days of Jeremiah.

And then, just a week or two later you read how God confirms that the promise was now fulfilled in Ezekiel 18:19 The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him. 

So the promise came in the days of Jeremiah and it was fulfilled in the days of Ezekiel, which was just a few years apart. The days of these prophets overlapped quite a bit. Then you read the whole chapter of Ezekiel 18 again and you could clearly see why nothing about generational curses could be found in the New Testament. It is because that law was repealed, like the law of a “tooth for a tooth” and a “hand for a hand”. At that moment you knew that all Scriptures before Ezekiel 18 were valid at that time but that it became invalid when God confirmed that He repealed it during the incident that was described in Ezekiel 18 (The incident was the “debate” that went on throughout Israel at that time, as mentioned in Ezekiel 18:1-3).

You can remember when you read about Ananias and Sapphira. You were shocked. God killed them both! God killed a human being. Two of them on the same day. Although you realized that they were killed because they sinned, you still did not expect God to be so violent or so strict. You remembered the day you read how Jesus warned a woman that He will make her sick. How He threatened to kill her children if she does not repent. That was even worse than Ananias and Sapphira. With Ananias and Sapphira you suspected that it was God the Father or the Holy Spirit killing them and you did not think that Jesus would be capable of doing something similar.

The fact that Jesus warned a woman, a Christian, in the church, that He will cast her on a sickbed and that He will kill her children, if she did not repent, was a real shocker. Also when He threatened a few people in the church that He will bring tribulation over them if they do not repent. This sounded that He will bring calamities over them. You can remember that you never could have guessed that Jesus is so strict and so violent. It was when you read this part of the New Testament that you realized that Jesus is just like the Father and the Holy Spirit.

Then you realized that Paul does not differ much from them at all. He instructed the church to hand Christians over to satan so that their bodies can be destroyed so that at least their souls are saved. At another part of the Scriptures, he mentioned that it is better to lose an eye rather than to sin and to go astray. At first, you thought that these incidents were just isolated but then you read how Paul warned the church that many of them are sick and some even died because they failed to judge themselves. He said if they do not judge themselves then God will judge them and that is why many among them are sick and some died already. So this was not just isolated incidents.

You immediately understood what the word “judge” meant in this Scripture and other Scriptures”

1 Corinthians 11:30-32

30 For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep.

31 For if we would judge ourselves, we should not be judged.

32 But when we are judged, we are chastened of the Lord, that we should not be condemned with the world.

This Scripture clearly connects these things to us failing to judge ourselves, with God now obliged to judge us resulting in the chastisement of the Lord which Paul said can be observed as a result of the sicknesses and diseases and even death among them. But the Scripture that opened it all up for you was the following:

1 Corinthians 10:15

I speak as to wise men; judge ye what I say.

This verse opened the whole thing for you because you realized what had happened here. The congregation of Corinth got involved in seriously bad sins and unacceptable behavior, in general, and even when they come together as a church. Paul heard about it and he decided to write this letter to them to warn them of the consequences. So throughout the letter, he mentioned the particular sins and the unacceptable behavior that he was told about and then he asked them to judge themselves.

However, he started by telling them that they must first judge whatever he was going to tell them in the letter. He said in 1 Corinth 10:15, “I speak as to wise men; judge ye what I say.”

Then Paul told them not to provoke the Lord to jealousy by eating food that they know have been sacrificed to idols. He told them not to offend each other. He told them to act appropriately when they are together by regarding each other and not to act whatever they wanted to. He told them not to seek their own profit. He said do not lust after evil things. Do not get involved in fornication, Do not tempt God and do not murmur. He told them to flee from adultery. Then he asked them to judge themselves in this regard, referring to the sins he just mentioned. As I already said, we read that in 1 Corinthians 10:15

I speak as to wise men; judge ye what I say.

So in the letter, Paul mentioned all the sins that were reported to him that they were busy with and then he asked them to judge for themselves what he was about to say to them. He emphasized that everyone needs to judge for themselves.

Then he proceeded by saying that they should keep the ordinances. That they should act appropriately. That a man should not be contentious. We should not be controversial, violent and argumentative. There should not be division among us. Women should know how to act appropriately and men should know how to act appropriately when we come together. We should not use the bread and the cup in an unworthy manner. So when Paul discussed all these things that were reported to him, he asked them to judge themselves and to examine themselves about these things. He did that five times and we will discuss a few of those Scriptures: 

2 Corinthians 13:5

Test yourselves to see if you are in the faith; examine yourselves! Or do you not recognize this about yourselves, that Jesus Christ is in you–unless indeed you fail the test?

1 Corinthians 11:13-14

13 Judge in yourselves: is it comely that a woman pray unto God uncovered?

14 Doth not even nature itself teach you, that, if a man have long hair, it is a shame unto him?

1 Corinthians 11:28

But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup.

1 Corinthians 11:31-32

For if we would judge ourselves, we should not be judged.

32 But when we are judged, we are chastened of the Lord, that we should not be condemned with the world.

You even read the same thing in other Scriptures that Paul wrote:

Galatians 6:4 

But each one must examine his own work, and then he will have reason for boasting in regard to himself alone, and not in regard to another.

Even John said that we should examine our hearts:

1 John 3:19-21 

We will know by this that we are of the truth, and will assure our heart before Him in whatever our heart condemns us; for God is greater than our heart and knows all things. Beloved, if our heart does not condemn us, we have confidence before God;

You realized that in all these incidents all sorts of sins have been involved. Ananias and Sapphira lied to the Holy Spirit, one man had the same woman his father had, many in the congregation who became sick or who died were involved in fornication, some of them were busy with the secret things of the deep secrets of satan and so on. Paul mentioned quite a few sins that the members of the church were involved with. Those were things that people in the world usually do. You have learned that this punishment is called the chastisement of God and that it only happens to Christians.

Later, when the Old Testament washed up on the shore, you found the same thing in the Old Testament. You read many times in the Old Testament how God warned people that if they do not repent that He will punish them. You have read many times, hundreds of times how He kept his word and He did kill them and He did bring all sorts of sicknesses and diseases and calamities onto them.

You learned that He was very strict with the nation of Israel. He also chastised them just like He did with the Christians in the New Testament. You even saw the curse of generational curse in action. You read how David and Bathsheba lost a baby boy who was killed by God because David sinned. You thought that it was really heartbreaking. Why must a small baby be killed because his father sinned? You were so glad when you read in Ezekiel 18 that even God felt that it was unfair for the son to pay for the sins of the father and the father to pay for the sins of the son. You read that this is the reason why God repealed this law. You are not really sure why God implemented this law in the first place. You suspect that He had no choice because of the extreme wickedness of the early Old Testament nations. Those people just did what they wanted to. They tormented and oppressed little children and the old and the widows and the strangers tremendously. They regarded them as second rate people and treated them like animals. God probably wanted to protect those poor people.

You remember how you read in the New Testament and the Old Testament how God killed thousands of people. How God made thousands of people sick. How God put fire onto people whilst they were walking in the wilderness. This was a bit of a shock too. You did not think that God will set people on fire whilst they were still alive. There they were walking in the desert when some of them suddenly caught fire. You read how He consumed people with fire from his face. How He caused the earth to swallow people up alive. How He hit them with pestilences and awful diseases.

You remember that you have read only once in the New Testament that the devil caused somebody to be sick. He kept a woman bound for several years. She could not walk straight because of that. Then there is the suggestion that Paul was tormented by a demonic spirit but the Bible does not say how. You did not even read once of the devil making a person sick in the Old Testament.

You read that the devil even asked God to make Job sick to prove that when that happens that Job will curse God. The devil could not do it himself because of the impenetrable hedge around Job. He had to ask God to bring sicknesses and diseases and calamities over Job.

So when you compare God with satan, it bothered you that God appeared so evil and so bad because of what He was doing. On the other hand, although the Bible warned against the devil, he appeared to be a lot better than God in this regard. This is what you found in the Bible:

  1. The Bible says over and over again in hundreds of Scriptures that God killed people and that He made people sick.

  2. The Bible says that God created hell and that it is his will that many people will be tormented in hell forever. He also created Hades where people are tormented right now, since the days of Adam and Eve, just as they will be tormented in hell after the judgment of the great white throne.

  3. Although the Bible repeated this fact many times, the Bible actually recorded or suggested thousands and thousands of incidents where God either killed people or made them sick. Many of them occurred in the wilderness after the nation of Israel left Egypt.

  4. All these incidents were all connected to sin. Nobody was killed by God or caused to be sick by God whilst they were innocent. They were all guilty of sin. Sin was every time the direct cause of the death or the sicknesses, diseases or calamities. In fact, God warned people over and over in the Old Testament and the New Testament that if they do not repent or if they do not stop sinning that they will be punished with sicknesses, diseases, and calamities. He even mentioned quite a few times that worse things will come over them if they do not repent or stop sinning.

  5. Many times in the Old Testament and the New Testament, God said that if people repent that He will heal them. So He promised to do exactly the opposite, when people repent, of what He usually does when they sin. When they sin He makes them sick and when they repent He heals them.

  6. Nowhere in the Bible does it say that the devil can make people sick or kill people, directly, as God does.

  7. Nowhere in the Bible is there any example of the devil killing a person or directly making a person sick as God did.

  8. In the whole Bible, we find only two references suggesting that the devil or a demonic spirit had something to do with a person being bound or sick and another being tormented.

  9. Only once in the Bible do we find a Scripture that suggests that the devil steals, kills and destroys.

  10. So if God is responsible for thousands and thousands of sicknesses and diseases and calamities and deaths in both the Old Testament and the New Testament, and the devil only one sickness, one other incident that we do not really understand and one Scripture that says that he steals, kills and destroys, then there is a huge possibility that we do not understand what these three scriptures really mean.

My opinion is that he tempts us to get involved in sin, that he lies about God and the word of God, that he steals the word of God from our hearts and that he destroys our faith. When we listen to all his lies, when we fall for his temptations and when we get involved in sin and when we allow him to steal the word of God from our hearts, we bring all these things over ourselves. That is why we get sick and why we bring all sorts of calamities over ourselves and why we die. The devil succeeds indirectly in destroying our lives. It is clear that he cannot do it physically himself as God can. He has to do it indirectly through temptations and lies. If he can get us to sin and to doubt in God and his word, we bring all those things over ourselves.

Someone once told me that if satan is not able to make us sick, yet he indirectly causes us to become sick through lies and deceit and temptations, and that happens 99.9 percent of the time, then he is indeed guilty as charged by the church who teaches that satan is the destroyer, the killer and the thief. He is to blame for everything.

This sounds fair but this view takes the blame away from where it really is. The fact is that he cannot touch us at all. We first have to fall for his lies by getting involved in sin and by believing his lies and by falling for his temptations. That makes us responsible and accountable and guilty. If we did not allow him to talk us into trouble, trouble would not have come. We do not have to listen to him. He suggests the crime but we commit the crime. 

As I explained several times in this course already, sicknesses and diseases and calamities and even death are the natural results of sin. The chastisement of God is another aspect in the lives of Christians that makes us suffer. We all suffer because of this, unsaved and even saved people. Saved people even more because we are chastised by God also.

So the woman who was bound for eighteen years probably brought this disease over herself because of the temptations of the devil. He “suggested” and she “committed” resulting in her being in bondage for 18 years. The bottom line is that she was guilty of sin. In the fable of Snowhite and the seven dwarfs, the witch had a delicious blood-red poisoned apple trying to tempt Snowhite to eat the apple? In the fable, the witch was blamed for the subsequent disastrous results although everyone realized that Snowhite was very naive. She should have known what trouble she was about to let herself into. Couldn’t she discern the evil in the person who gave her the apple?

There are a lot of theories of what the torment is all about that the specific demon caused in the life of Paul. The Bible did not say. I believe that it was a demonic spirit influencing or causing people to try to undo the work of Paul. This is the only thing that could be identified in the life of Paul that fits the description of a constant “thorn in the flesh”. If it was a disease, Paul would have said so. Why should it be a secret? Paul, however, said that it was a demon.

He was constantly followed by false apostles visiting the congregations that he ministered unto just to undo his work. They were always right behind him, teaching the opposite and trying to put all sorts of legalistic Jewish rituals and laws onto the shoulders of the saints. This was a big problem for Paul and he numerously complained about this and warned the saints against these false apostles. This demonic spirit and these false apostles had a lot of success in destroying the work of Paul. Many congregations that Paul planted ran after these people. They did not heed to Paul’s warnings and they fell for these lies. Imagine this, Paul ended up defending the legitimacy of his apostleship against the very members of the churches that he planted. They were actually the proof of his apostleship yet he had to defend his apostleship to these people. For Paul, this was indeed a thorn in the flesh. 

Nowhere in the Bible does it say that this torment was a sickness or a disease. However, the Bible does say that it was a demon giving Paul a hard time.

So although we read of thousands of incidents in the Bible of God literally and directly killing people and literally and directly making people sick, we never read that in the Bible about satan.

And so, through the years you have read quite a lot of wonderful things in the Bible. You learned a lot about God and you learned a lot about the church and the human race. You had a longing in your heart to meet your spiritual family for a long time on that island.

And so one beautiful morning you suddenly heard a noise similar to the bird that makes that irritating screaming sound. Only this sound was less irritating but it just carried on and on. That is the day when you were discovered on that island and when you realized that you are about to meet people and about to meet your spiritual brothers and sisters.

And even today, when you think back to that day, you cannot hide that familiar feeling of disappointment that usually creeps up into your heart whenever you think of that day. It was a wonderful day and you are still so glad and thankful to God. But you always think of the total disillusionment you experienced when you discovered that the church is so full of false doctrines. It was a big disappointment when you realized that the church did not listen to Paul’s warnings at all.

You were even more disappointed when you attempted to help your brothers and sisters. When you tried to teach them the truth. Only a few of them listened to what you had to say. Most of them just had too much respect for their pastors and the rest of the five-fold ministry. They just argued and argued with you until you gave up.

But you refused to be led astray by these people. Although you were full of doubt in the beginning, you knew that what you have learned is written in the Bible and that the Holy Spirit taught you. When a pastor told you one morning that God does not make people sick, that God does not punish people anymore, that God does only good things because He is the Father of lights and that there is no evil in his heart, you were able to prove the contrary. You showed him the Scriptures that prove it.

Isaiah 45:7

I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.

2 Tim 3:12-17

12 Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution.

13 But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived.

14 But continue thou in the things which thou hast learned and hast been assured of, knowing of whom thou hast learned them;

15 And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.

16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

17 That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.

When that minister told you that the law of generational curses is still a reality in our lives, you were a bit confused when he showed you a video of an exorcist casting out demons, because of what the exorcist said about generational curses and especially after the demon admitted that he entered the woman because of the sins of her ancestors. Fortunately, you remembered Jesus and Paul warning against false apostles and against the doctrines of devils.

That pastor could not believe his eyes when you showed him in the books of Ezekiel and Jeremiah that the law of generational curses was repealed in the Old Testament already. He honestly did not know about those Scriptures. You could not understand this until you learned that the Bible School that he attended during his preparation does not really cover the Bible. They deal with all sorts of church methodology, church history, church doctrines and denominational rules and regulations of the denomination and the church constitution.

You remember the shock that you felt when you discovered that small group who invited you to assist them with spiritual warfare. At first, you thought that you have failed to comprehend this aspect of Christianity but fortunately, a man of God confirmed that what you have learned on the island about this aspect was indeed correct. God did defeat the enemy completely and we do reign from a position of rest, in Christ, on the throne of Christ, with him. If it was not for that man you could have been led astray in this area because this is one aspect that you did not know how to handle.

Many Christians are not capable to handle false doctrines at all. They are very ignorant in this regard. They do not know the word of God and that is why they cannot handle false doctrines. Only those who have been taught by the Holy Spirit knows the word of God. If you have been taught by the Holy Spirit, you are capable to identify any false doctrine the moment you hear it.

We need to allow the Holy Spirit to teach us. This makes the difference and that is what we all need to do. All of us. Every human being needs to be taught by the Holy Spirit. Paul said the same thing. He said that he was taught by God himself. He did not rely on the apostles for this. We cannot rely on the five-fold ministry to teach us. We have the Holy Spirit and if we allow him to teach us then we know all things. But, we do need to realize that we must be humble and open to correction but, after being corrected we must check the Scriptures to make sure the correction is really authentic. This is the secret.

If we do this we will be able to understand the will and the ways and the character of God a lot better. We would know why God does certain things that we never thought He was capable of.

Many people do not like the fact that God created hell and that He created sicknesses and diseases and even calamities, specifically to punish people with. People want God to be like Santa. They want God to do only wonderful and beautiful things. Now, of course, that is the nature of God. If there were no evil, that is exactly how God would have been.

God is the most awesome being that exists. He is good and gracious and full of mercy. He is beautiful, He is meek and He is just. He created this awesome universe. He created people. He meant for all of this to be wonderful and awesome. He wanted us to live in this wonderland where there are goodness and love and peace, almost like in a land of fairies but without the evil goblins and witches and so on. Unfortunately evil came into being because of sin. Evil and sin caused all the bad things. God had no choice but to create bad things to punish evil.

It is a reality that by far, 99,9% of the time, that people would bring these bad things into their lives automatically. Hundred percent actually, in the lives of unsaved people. Bad things are therefore directly connected to what we do. This happens in the lives of all people, saved and unsaved. It is not God punishing us. Most of the time, the sicknesses and diseases and calamities in our lives are the results of us wanting to sin because we like to sin. It is about the devil tempting us into sin. He suggests the crime and we carry out the crime. We do not have to listen to him. It is for this reason that we can only blame ourselves for havoc in our lives.

Only about 0,1% percent of the bad things in the lives of Christians is caused by God through chastisement. He chastises only the people that He loves, those who are very close to him. Today, He only chastises Christians. In the Old Testament, He only chastised the nation of Israel.

It is for this reason that Christians do not have to live in fear of God. If we abstain from willfully and purposely chase after bad things, God will never chastise us. If we choose to willfully and purposely chase after bad things and if we willfully and purposely chose to live in sin, God will slowly but surely attempt to get us to repent. If we are stubborn, He will warn us against the danger of sin for years and years. He is slow to anger and He is full of mercy and grace but, if we refuse to sin, eventually God will chastise us severely. He will cause us to get sick and He will bring calamities over us. He will even kill us to make sure that we do not go astray.

That does not change the fact that we need to judge ourselves when we get sick. Sicknesses and diseases and calamities are warnings. It is not supposed to be part of our lives. We are supposed to live according to Psalm 91, and Psalm 112 and Psalm 23. The truths of those Psalms have been confirmed in the New Testament. It was true for the nation of Israel and it is true for the church.

If the promises of God and the word of God are not a reality in your life, then only you can be blamed for that. Either you sinned, or you are involved in wrong things and wrong relationships, or you did not take the time to study the word of God, or you did not take the time to renew your mind, or you failed to allow the Holy Spirit to teach you but you learned from the five-fold ministry and you are therefore kept in bondage because of false doctrines or doctrines of devils, or you chose to live a very mediocre life when it comes to spiritual matters, or you chose to spend most of your time enjoying all the wonderful entertainment the world offered you, or you are being chastised by God, which by the way is most likely not the case. Only about 0.1 percent of the time are we being chastised by God and that usually happens quite a long time after we stubbornly refused to repent.

If we repent we will be healed if we pray for healing in faith or when the elders pray for us. And our sins will be forgiven. This is the will and the ways of God almighty, who answers to nobody, and who does what is fair, judge and what needs to be done to protect his children and his creation.

This is all for today. See you next time.

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